Curse

Siran Dunmorgan · Feb 15, 2005, 05:45 PM // 17:45

I don't know if any of you saw this, but there was an interesting two-person combination build posted by Ryston in this thread over at The Guild Hall, about half-way down the page.

Is this accurate? 1600 damage in 20 seconds?

Or is Diovid's follow-up post correct, and Stone Daggers doesn't count as a 'hit'?

—Siran Dunmorgan

Fezz · Feb 15, 2005, 06:27 PM // 18:27

Edit: Scratch all that, guess it is sort of important to update the skill builer occasionally.

Vermilion Okeanos · Feb 15, 2005, 09:21 PM // 21:21

actually stone dagger now has no recharge time... just like flare.

steam (not directed to anyone)
These days... i feel pointless discussing builts... Because most people dont even bother to go in depth to see what would happen in a battle field...

example that built just now, "if" it hit... like they assume the other guy just stand there and let u hit him/her.

well, i dont care if people are just saying... but I get annoy when people sound like "i am almighty god" just on this simple piece of paper tactic... =/
instead of saying "i want to cry" crap/junk... they really should focus how they can prevent it from being counter.
/steam

Ensign · Feb 16, 2005, 11:12 AM // 11:12

Two Warriors stacking buffs can deal 1600 damage in 20 seconds without breaking a sweat.

Peace,
-CxE

[RDH]Zedicus · Feb 16, 2005, 04:46 PM // 16:46

Actually he was saying "1600 before armor 2240 armor ignoring damage." in 20 secs. 1600 in 20 ses alone is pretty bad. A warrior using nothing but a hammer can do 1300 damage in 10 secs with no skills used if everything hits ( unlikely but it is also unlikely that no skills were used ). What this guy forgets is he is sacrificing 150 health every 5 secs to keep this up and cant do anything else. So even if Stone Daggers counts as a hit ( which I doubt ) I think there are some Ele builds out there that can do this amount of damage over 20 secs without tieing up 2 people and at less cost to health. Hust my opinion though.

Cicciro · Feb 16, 2005, 08:09 PM // 20:09

Zed... there is no possible way a hammer can do 1300 damage in 10 second with no skills. Not in PvP anyway. These recordings were done based on PvP.

Freyas · Feb 16, 2005, 09:29 PM // 21:29

A hammer won't do 1300 damage in 10 secs- I don't think you'll even have a chance at 130 in PvP combat with hammer attacks and no skills.

As for the 2-person combo, Order of Pain and Order of the Vampire only work on weapon attacks- meaning stone daggers won't trigger it at all. Having a character spamming OOP+OOV is very impracitcal as well- at 2 seconds casting and 10 energy, you spend all your time trying to keep them active, and you'll be out of energy in 4 casts- making you basically worthless for an extended period of time afterwards.

1600 damage over 20 seconds is about as good as any 2 characters will be able to do- warriors can theoretically do it with stacked buffs, but movement, evasion skills, etc can greatly decrease their ability to deal that damage... if their target starts running, the warriors will get about 1/2 the attacks in. As for Elementalists, they can deal a good amount of frontloaded damage, but they can't deal anywhere near 1600 damage, unless the other team is comprised of complete idiots, who all stand closely packed together in the middle of AoE spells.